The league overwhelmingly approved contraction of JRS and SKM, 16-0 with 1 abstention.
The option for how to perform contraction that achieved the highest vote total was for dispersal of all major and minor league players via a draft available to all teams, which received 10 votes (the next highest tally was 5 votes for dispersing carded players to non-playoff teams only).
In terms of implementing the dispersal draft, I propose that we conduct it via email, starting next Tuesday October 12. We will have 4 rounds, following the order of the IOD. Players drafted will be taken subject to their contracts, including A status (note, for example, that Jimenez, Hamels, and Lester all went A this season). Both carded and uncarded players will be eligible to be drafted and a team may pass at any time.
There will be no express time limit within which a pick must be made, but please have consideration for other owners and try to make picks fairly promptly, as I'm sure that nobody wants this to drag on. I'm sure that anyone taking an unusual amount of time will have his fellow owners nagging him with email prompts also, so there should be good incentive to move it along.
Please let me know if you have any comments or questions about the process.
Having done email drafts for the last five years in my other league, I recommend you assign each team a draft by time, say 30m between each pick. If the team that is their turn to draft doesn't pick by their deadline, the next team can then make their pick. The passed over team can always come back and make their pick, they don't forfeit it, but of course players will have been taken that they will miss out on. Doing it this way prevents people from having to send emails, getting frustrated because one person holds things up. If you aren't available to pick by your deadline, then have someone pick for you from a list. If you are watching the draft you can narrow down the guys who will be available at your pick, so the list isn't a long one. If picks are made early then the next team in line can go ahead and make their pick. The time assigned is a deadline time or pick by time, not the assigned tme to pick. This works like a charm with very few hang ups.
The 30 minute time limit will not work for me. During the week, I'm in the field for hours at a time. On the weekends, it's pot luck. I'm sure there are others in the same boat. This is just one of several reasons I dislike an e-mail draft.
How will we know what players have been taken. We the email be sent to everyone or can we have a list posted some where on the ARBA sit. Just a thought.
My personal view is that trying to tie people into slots is not going to work for ARBA owners. I do appreciate that it could work - people could have standby lists and such - but it doesn't really fit the historical character of ARBA.
Having said that, if the process drags on and on and people are not making timely picks, I will find a way to speed it up somehow. I don't think that will happen, but I'm not going to let the league wait days for a pick or weeks for the whole process to be completed. So people should be aware of the possibility that they will be skipped if they're not checking their email and/or the site.
My thought is that we will conduct the draft via an email chain to all owners, but I will also keep a running tally of picks on the message board so people can check if they think that they might be missing emails.
Your situation is why we need the time limit. If you are out in the field all day then the whole league is waiting on one person and the draft drags along too long. Most teams only make 1 pick a day, two at the most and then only some teams get to 2. If you know you have to pick by 1pm, then you can try and schedule to be near a computer to do so, or you can ask someone to pick from a list for you,based on who has already been picked. If you check your email at 9am and know you have to pick at 1pm, then you know you need to make a list of 8 players because there will be 7 picks made before yours. You don't have to make a long list.
Ken,
In my other league we cut and paste the entire page showing who was picked and then add our pick, and send to the entire league.
So you can see who has been selected, see the time the next pick is due and who is picking. The above is abbreviated. All the picks and times would be included.
For the record, I'm open to any approach. If people want to send it lists, that's fine. If people want to have time slots, that's fine too. Or if we want to do a chat room that's ok (although I suspect that this one may prove impractical without the kind of advance notice that we have for the FA auction and IOD).
I very much appreciate the conversation and suggestions. If someone feels strongly about how this should be done, please speak up, even if it's just to say "I totally agree with [Person X]." If there is a big outcry for any particular method, I'm likely to go that way.
I like doing live draft. I think others like it as well. Lets do it the way we always have. A live draft and if you don't want to do a live draft give someone your teams pick and have them draft for you. Wait haven't we been doing that for years now. It is the best of both world. Me, my Dad, Gary and some time Jeff get together at my Dads house and do the draft every year. We love it, its seems to make it alot of fun.
So I say live drafts with people who don't want to and or can't do the live draft send some one your list ( hell I am drafting for to teams and I will help out one team), that lets people who like live drafts do that and the people that don't like it have there way.
Tom you need any help with a live draft so we can let me know and I will help .
Yes, we've always done drafts live, but we've also always scheduled them months in advance.
I am leaving town Friday as soon as my morning class is over and will be without computer access til Sunday, so basically, if we were going to have a live draft this weekend, I would have one day to make a ranked list of 120 players and send it to someone.
The weekend of the 15-16th I am attending a professional conference.
All of these plans were made months ago.
Even if you can find a date that works for 3/4 of the owners I would argue that isn't particularly fair to the other quarter.
I don't mind doing this dispersal draft via e-mail, but I don't want to be held to half an hour. In general, I despise e-mail drafts but can live through what amounts to 4 rounds (probably less after looking at JRS).
Well, the new guy will make his opinion known. I personally dislike email drafts for the obvious reasons that have already been mentioned. I would prefer a LIVE draft if possible, but undoubtedly, whatever we go with isn't going to be agreeable with everyone. But, I am flexible and will go along with the majority. Just my two cents worth.
